County Commission minutes, January 9-10
January 19, 2012

Monday, January 09, 2012, Commissioners met in regular session with Chairman Ron Smith, Commissioner Dan Dinning, Commissioner Walt Kirby, and Deputy Clerk Michelle Rohrwasser.

 

County resident Jerry Di Muro also joined the meeting.

 

9:00 a.m., Road and Bridge Superintendent Jeff Gutshall joined the meeting to give the departmental report. Mr. Gutshall presented a written report.

 

Commissioner Dinning moved to amend today’s agenda for 9:30 a.m., to include the adoption of the County Precinct Map. Commissioner Kirby second. Motion passed unanimously.

 

Chairman Smith said this change to the agenda is related matters already scheduled for that time.

 

Mr. Gutshall said during the December 2011 Boundary Area Transportation Team (BATT) meeting, Don Davis with the Idaho Transportation Department (ITD) said in addition to the paving project in Bonners Ferry, he was asked by Damon Allen, also of ITD, to get a list of other concerns along the route from the City of Bonners Ferry. Mr. Gutshall asked if that includes the old north hill and walkway. Mr. Gutshall said a couple of things City of Bonners Ferry Road Foreman John Youngwirth was considering was the old north hill walkway and Pine Island Road. Mr. Gutshall said if anything is done to Pine Island Road, the Forest Service would have to be on board as it may include some of their parking lot. Mr. Gutshall said that road approach could be done differently and this is something ITD may be in favor of as they don’t like multiple approaches and there are two there that are not in favorable areas. Mr. Gutshall said the problem in that area is when a person is coming down and breaking traction.

 

Clerk Glenda Poston joined the meeting at 9:05 a.m.

 

Mr. Gutshall spoke to Commissioners about Road and Bridge’s new shift during winter operations, which covers all weekend. Mr. Gutshall said there is no overtime involved and he has yet to see how this schedule will work. There will be two to three Road and Bridge employees working Thursday through Sunday and Monday night through Thursday night will be the nightshift.

 

Chairman Smith said he felt the meeting he and Mr. Gutshall had with Boundary County School Superintendent, Dick Conley, was good and he was impressed with the Superintendent. Chairman Smith said the School District had been thinking about starting school two hours later on snow days rather than canceling school, but after learning what the snowplow schedule is, it was decided a delay wouldn’t be a good idea.

 

9:10 a.m., County resident Lee Pinkerton joined the meeting.

 

Mr. Gutshall said he purchased a brine plant, but it hasn’t been used as Road and Bridge needs a platform and cover for it. The City of Bonners Ferry also needs brine around the City and Mr. Gutshall said brine could be made for 10 cents a gallon. By partnering with the City, the City could provide funds for a slab and roof and make the process equitable for both entities. Chairman Smith said the landfill may have an area for the brine plant. Chairman Smith mentioned the fairgrounds may also be a location to consider.

 

Mr. Gutshall informed Commissioners he is already over budget on diesel.

 

Mr. Gutshall said David Evans and Associates is working on a new construction estimate for one of the Trow Creek Bridges. One of the bridges has a bad sufficiency rating, but the other bridge’s rating is good. Mr. Gutshall said Boundary County gained two points by keeping costs for construction projects under three quarters of a million dollars. Mr. Gutshall said he will have the paperwork done sometime this week and it is due February 12th.  Mr. Gutshall said he would like the bridge’s surrounding area addressed as well.

 

Commissioner Dinning moved to sign the application for replacement of Trow Creek Bridge when Mr. Gutshall presents it. Commissioner Kirby second. Motion passed unanimously.

 

Mr. Gutshall said for all the years he thought the Deep Creek Bridges would be under construction he put in matching funds, but this year he didn’t put in matching funds and the bridges may actually be constructed. It’s possible this season that 7.34% of construction costs may be requested, but he doesn’t have it in his budget. Mr. Gutshall said he does have the cash in his budget so he may need to do a resolution. Mr. Gutshall said he still has funds sitting in ITD’s bank account for projects so he doesn’t see why they just can’t use those funds. Mr. Gutshall said he will contact ITD about use of those funds.

 

Mr. Gutshall said the bridge near the refuge that he submitted for inclusion in the Forest Highway Project was not selected. This bridge doesn’t have a low enough sufficiency rating, according to Mr. Gutshall.

 

Commissioner Kirby asked Mr. Gutshall to keep pressing ITD for a turn bay at Division Street.

 

Commissioner Kirby said he heard something about Highway 2 being raised two feet over the course of several years and how it affects the airport.

 

Mr. Gutshall left the meeting at 9:30 a.m.

 

Clerk Poston presented a resolution adopting new Commissioner Districts along with a new Commissioner District map. Clerk Poston said GIS Mapper Gary Falcon used data from the census to prepare the map. Commissioners and Clerk Poston reviewed each district’s population. Commissioner Dinning said this new map is clearer as it is better divided by the highway, the railroad tracks into Bonners Ferry, and Highway 1. The river divides Districts 2 and 3, according to Clerk Poston.

 

Commissioner Kirby moved to adopt Resolution 2012-5. A resolution establishing Commissioner Districts. Commissioner Dinning second. Motion passed unanimously. Resolution 2012-5 reads as follows:

Resolution 2012-5

 

A Resolution Establishing Commissioner Districts

 

                WHEREAS, Idaho Code 31-704 requires the board of commissioners to district their county into three districts at the regular meeting in January preceding any general election into three districts, as nearly equal in population as may be, to be known as county commissioners’ districts numbers one (1), two (2) and three (3); and

 

                NOW THEREFORE, upon motion duly made, seconded, and unanimously carried,

 

IT IS HEREBY RESOLVED that the Board of County Commissioners, County of Boundary, State of Idaho establish the following commissioner districts based on the 2010 Census:

 

Boundary County Commissioner Districts – 2012

District 1

 

Beginning at the intersection of the Boundary-Bonner County Line and the centerline of U.S. Highway 95 & 2; thence northerly along the centerline of said highway to the intersection with the centerline of Pine Island Road; thence west along said centerline to the east right of way line of the Burlington Northern Santa Fe Railroad; thence northerly along said right of way line to the intersection with the centerline of U.S. Highway 95 & 2; thence northerly along said centerline to the intersection with the centerline of State Highway 1; thence northerly along said State Highway centerline to the intersection with the United States – Canada International Boundary Line; thence west along said International Boundary Line to the Idaho – Washington State Boundary Line; thence south along said State Boundary Line to the intersection with the Boundary – Bonner County Line; thence east along said County Line; thence south along said County Line; thence east along said County Line to the intersection with the centerline of U.S. Highway 95 & 2 and the place of beginning.

 

District 2

 

Beginning at the intersection of the centerline of State Highway 1 and the United States – Canada International Boundary Line; thence east along said International Boundary Line to the Idaho – Montana State Boundary Line; thence south along said State Boundary Line to the intersection with the centerline of the Kootenai River; thence westerly along the centerline of said Kootenai River to the intersection with the centerline of U.S. Highway 95 & 2; thence northerly along said centerline to the intersection with the centerline of State Highway 1; thence northerly along said State Highway centerline to the intersection with the United States – Canada International Boundary Line and the place of beginning.

 

District 3

 

Beginning at the intersection of the Boundary-Bonner County line and the centerline of U.S. Highway 95 & 2; thence northerly along the centerline of said highway to the intersection with the centerline of Pine Island Road; thence west along said centerline to the east right of way line of the Burlington Northern Santa Fe Railroad; thence northerly along said right of way line to the intersection with the centerline of U.S. Highway 95 & 2; thence northerly along said centerline to the intersection with the centerline of the Kootenai River; thence easterly along the centerline of said Kootenai River to the Idaho – Montana State Boundary Line; thence south along said State Boundary Line to the Boundary – Bonner County Line; thence west along said County Line to the intersection with the centerline of U.S. Highway 95 & 2 and the place of beginning.

 

DATED this 9th day of January, 2012 

                                                                                                                COUNTY OF BOUNDARY

                                                                                                                BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS

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                                                                                                                RONALD R. SMITH, Chairman

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                                                                                                                DAN R. DINNING, Commissioner

                                                                                                                s/____________________________                         

                                                                                                                WALT KIRBY, Commissioner

ATTEST:

s/____________________________________________________

GLENDA POSTON, Clerk of the Board of County Commissioners

Recorded as instrument #252851

 

Commissioner Dinning moved to adopt and sign the Commissioner District map. Commissioner Kirby second. Motion passed unanimously.

 

Commissioner Dinning moved to adopt Resolution 2012-6. Adopting polling precincts and sites in Boundary County. Commissioner Kirby second. Motion passed unanimously. Resolution 2012-6 reads as follows:

 

RESOLUTION 2012-6

 

A RESOLUTION ESTABLISHING POLLING SITES IN BOUNDARY COUNTY

 

            WHEREAS, the Board of County Commissioners, County of Boundary, State of Idaho, has established seven polling sites within the County, and

 

WHEREAS, currently those sites are the Bonners Ferry Precinct, Copeland Precinct, Kootenai Precinct, Moyie Springs Precinct, Naples Precinct, North Bonners Ferry Precinct and the Valley View Precinct, and

 

            WHEREAS, the Board of County Commissioners find it in the best interest of the general public to combine the Bonners Ferry Precinct and the Kootenai Precinct due to the number of voters in each of those precincts in order to save on time, personnel and funding, and 

 

            NOW THEREFORE, upon motion duly made, seconded, and unanimously carried,

 

IT IS HEREBY RESOLVED that the Board of County Commissioners, County of Boundary, State of Idaho establish the polling sites for elections to be held in Boundary County as follows:

 

PRECINCT                                                        LOCATION

B.F./Kootenai Precinct                                       Exhibit Hall, Boundary County Fairgrounds

Copeland Precinct                                              Mt. Hall School

Moyie Springs Precinct                                      Evergreen School

Naples Precinct                                                 South Boundary Fire Hall

North Bonners Ferry Precinct                              Exhibit Hall, Boundary County Fairgrounds

Valley View Precinct                                          Valley View School

 

DATED this 9th day of January, 2012 

                                                                                    COUNTY OF BOUNDARY

                                                                                    BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS

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                                                                                    RONALD R. SMITH, Chairman

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                                                                                    DAN R. DINNING, Commissioner

                                                                                    s/_________________________                         

                                                                                    WALT KIRBY, Commissioner

ATTEST:

s/___________________________________________________

GLENDA POSTON, Clerk of the Board of County Commissioners

Recorded as instrument #252858

 

The only change made is combining the Bonners Ferry and Kootenai precincts. The logistics will not change. Clerk Poston said this change makes more sense since there is such as low turnout in the Bonners Ferry precinct. Clerk Poston said signs will clarify which line to vote in. Clerk Poston said her staff may expand the counting room at the Moyie Precinct.

 

Those present discussed processes for declaring party affiliations and requesting specific party ballots and explained the absentee ballot application and party affiliation statement.    

 

Clerk Poston left the meeting at 9:50 a.m.

 

Commissioner Dinning moved to reappoint John Cranor to the Planning and Zoning Commission with a term to expire January 31, 2016. Commissioner Kirby second. Motion passed unanimously.

 

Commissioner tended to administrative duties.

 

Mr. Pinkerton left the meeting at 10:10 a.m.

 

Chairman Smith reviewed aloud the support letter for a District 1 Involuntary Hold Facility. Commissioner Dinning questioned if by signing the letter, are Commissioners obligating the County in this grant. Commissioner Dinning questioned how many people Boundary County takes to Lewiston and if the number is low, what are the cost figures. It was said Boundary County’s three year average is 4 people and that is only if Kootenai Medical Center is full. Commissioner Dinning questioned if the County would be spending millions of dollars for 10 to 20 people to go to Lewiston. The information shows Boundary County’s projected cost is 8,000 and Commissioner Dinning said he would like to review the information.

 

Commissioner Dinning moved to sign the letter of support for the proposed District 1 Involuntary Hold Facility. Commissioner Kirby second. Motion passed unanimously.

 

Mr. Di Muro left the meeting.

 

Deputy Clerk Nancy Ryals joined the meeting at 10:25 a.m.

 

Commissioner Dinning moved to go into closed session under Idaho Code #31-874. Commissioner Kirby second. Motion passed unanimously. 10:30 a.m., Commissioner Dinning moved to go out of closed session. Commissioner Kirby second. Motion passed unanimously.     

 

Commissioner Kirby moved to deny indigent application #2012-6 as per the Clerk’s recommendation. Commissioner Kirby second. Motion passed unanimously.

 

Commissioner Dinning moved to adopt Resolution 2012-7. A resolution appointing a member to the Planning and Zoning Commission. Commissioner Kirby second. Motion passed unanimously. Resolution 2012-7 reads as follows: 

 

RESOLUTION APPOINTING MEMBER TO

PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION

 

RESOLUTION NO. 2012-7

 

WHEREAS, Chapter 65 of Title 67 does empower Boundary County to create a Planning and Zoning Commission, and Chapter 3, Section 1 of the Boundary County Zoning and Subdivision Ordinance did establish such a commission; and

 

WHEREAS, member John Cranor, having been appointed February 28, 2011, to fill a vacant term, has served to the completion of that term; and

 

WHEREAS; John Cranor has expressed interest in and does qualify to serve on the commission and does meet the residency requirements set forth at Section 67-6504, IC; and

 

WHEREAS, the Board of County Commissioners are desirous of appointing John Cranor to a full term as a member of the Boundary County Planning and Zoning Commission; and

 

NOW, THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED by the Board of County Commissioners of Boundary County, Idaho, that John Cranor be appointed to membership on the Boundary County Planning and Zoning Commission to a full term on the Planning and Zoning Commission, with term ending on January 31, 2016.

 

Regularly passed and approved on this 9th day of January, 2012.

 

COUNTY OF BOUNDARY

BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS

s/______________________

RON SMITH, CHAIR

s/_________________________

DAN DINNING, COMMISSIONER

s/_________________________

WALT KIRBY, COMMISSIONER

 

ATTEST:

s/__________________________________

MICHELLE ROHRWASSER, DEPUTY

Clerk of the Board of County Commissioners

Recorded as instrument #252859

 

Commissioners reviewed claims for payment. Fund totals are as follows:

 

Current Expense                                     $65,769.26

Road & Bridge                                        65,241.65

Airport                                                      4,019.06

District Court                                             2,913.31

Justice Fund                                             38,853.43

911 Funds                                                  2,976.96

Health District                                           12,639.00

Hospital, Operation                                  69,000.00

Indigent & Charity                                    46,118.31

Parks and Recreation                                10,792.87

Revaluation                                                    678.83

Solid Waste                                              16,786.08

Tort                                                          76,307.50

Veterans Memorial                                        533.29

Weeds                                                          173.98

Restorium                                                 19,666.55

Waterways                                                    337.83

Juvenile Probation-Lottery                             180.16

Hospital Supplemental Levy                        5,114.23

Fire Mitigation Grant                                 15,957.88

 

                          TOTAL                     $454,060.18

Trusts

Sales Tax Collected                                    1,252.99

Drivers License Trust                                  6,700.00

Magistrate Trust                                       49,515.60

Indigent Reimbursements                            6,226.00

Motor Vehicle Trust                                 80,385.21

Sheriff's Trust Fund                                        156.70

 

                        TOTAL                       $144,236.50

                       

                        GRAND TOTAL      $598,296.68

 

Citizens are invited to inspect detailed records on file in the Courthouse (individual claims & Commissioners’ allowance & warrant register record 2011).

 

10:35 a.m., Solid Waste Superintendent Claine Skeen joined the meeting.

 

Commissioner Dinning moved to approve the minutes of January 2 & 3, 2011. Commissioner Kirby second. Motion passed unanimously.

 

Commissioner Kirby asked Mr. Skeen how the recycle shelter is coming along and Mr. Skeen said it is done.

 

Commissioners tended to administrative duties.

 

Chairman Smith said today’s discussion on the Caribou critical habitat will be postponed until tomorrow at 10 a.m., at which time Commissioners will conduct a conference call with Shoshone County Commissioners on the same matter. 

 

Chairman Smith said he received a call from Panhandle State Bank Vice President, Dave Walter about financing for the wheel loader. The interest rate Panhandle Bank was offering was 3.4% and the rate from CAT Financial Services is 3.2%. Chairman Smith mentioned Mr. Walter said if the rate is the only difference, he would be able to match the rate of 3.2%. CAT Financial’s payments are only $17,580 and payments quoted by Panhandle State Bank are $69,650. Mr. Skeen said he spoke to Mr. Walter as well and Panhandle State Bank has a payoff in five years whereas CAT Financial will own the machine after five years in which the County would re-lease after five years. Mr. Skeen said CAT Financial will buy the machine back and that is why their quote is cheaper. Panhandle State Bank can compare as long as CAT Financial will honor the guaranteed buyback after five years through another finance company. Chairman Smith said if that is the deal, would Mr. Skeen want to go finance through Panhandle State Bank. Mr. Skeen said he has no issues with who he finances with. Chairman Smith said he doesn’t want it to appear that the County is accepting financing through Panhandle State Bank because he and Mr. Walter are friends. Chairman Smith said he looks at this matter as it is dealing with a local bank. Mr. Skeen asked for clarification on Panhandle State Bank offering a fixed 3.2% rate.

 

Commissioners spoke to Panhandle State Bank Vice President Dave Walter via telephone at 10:55 a.m.

 

Chairman Smith reviewed the financing terms with Mr. Walter for accuracy. Mr. Walter confirmed that his bank could honor annual payments of $17,558 as CAT Financial had also offered. Commissioner Dinning said if Panhandle State Bank offered a rate of 3.2% and CAT Financial Services will guarantee the buy back, would the annual payment be same as CAT’s offer. Mr. Walter said yes, with annual payments of $17558, the County is still paying some of the principal balance down and the County will end up getting a bit of money back is CAT buys back at $272,000.

 

It was said a request has been made to CAT Financial Services if they will buy back the wheel loader if it is financed through Panhandle State Bank. Commissioner Kirby said in another lease situation, CAT Financial supplied the contract with the exception of the financing, which Panhandle State Bank supplied. Mr. Walter said he thinks the CAT Financial’s guarantee is more so tied to warranty work.

 

The telephone call with Mr. Walter ended.

 

Mr. Skeen said he will wait to see what CAT Financial comes back with.

 

The meeting with Mr. Skeen ended at 11:05 a.m.

There being no further business, the meeting recessed until tomorrow at 9:00 a.m.

 

***Tuesday, January 10, 2012, Commissioners met in regular session with Chairman Ron Smith, Commissioner Dan Dinning, Commissioner Walt Kirby, and Deputy Clerk Michelle Rohrwasser.  

    

9:00 a.m., Commissioner Dinning moved amend today’s agenda to consider financing for the wheel loader at 1:30 p.m. Commissioner Kirby second. Motion passed unanimously.

 

Boundary Volunteer Ambulance (BVA) Chief Ken Baker, BVA Administrative staff member Edna Runyan, BVA Emergency Medical Technicians Vicky Hamilton and John Minden, BVA Attorney Brian Woods, Boundary Community Hospital Chief Operating Officer Jeffrey Perkins, and Clerk Glenda Poston joined the meeting to discuss information on forming a proposed Ambulance District.   

 

Chairman Smith said if the County decides to form an ambulance district it would be the County that determines who the governing board will consist of. Commissioners would have direct decision making and Attorney Woods said absolutely. Attorney Woods said not only would Commissioners have the ability to say they chose not to continue funding BVA and would prefer to look for another service provider, but Commissioners will also have more of a direct ability in the day to day functioning of BVA by being able to appoint someone to the BVA Board. Chairman Smith said he thought there would be no BVA Board unless the County put one together. Attorney Woods said the County would be completely in charge of funds and he explained how the process works. Attorney Woods suggested BVA state in their by-laws that Commissioners have the right to appoint a person to the ambulance district board of directors. When the district has a board of directors meeting for themselves, the County’s appointed could also attend. Chairman Smith said the County is ultimately responsible for funds and if Commissioners don’t like what is going on, they can ultimately do away with the contract with BVA. Attorney Woods said another thought is to allow Boundary Community Hospital the right to appoint a member to the board of directors and possibly a City of Bonners Ferry representative since a certain percent of call volume comes from the city. The membership would still have a majority vote, but each of three constituent organizations would have a voice. Attorney Woods said they’ve revised the Powerpoint presentation to present at the public hearing and he wants to make sure when today’s meeting is over they know when there is going to be a public hearing as it is important for the community to move forward.

 

Commissioner Dinning said educating the community as to what this proposed district is about is not necessarily the Commissioners’ role, but education would help dispel any rumors. Chairman Smith said that is what the Commissioners’ public hearing will be about. Attorney Woods anticipates a certain structure such as funds come to the County who then determines spending so there is a contractual relationship. It was said BVA would be responsible for actual spending. Currently BVA is a non-profit organization that is available for the welfare of the general public. BVA has a total of 35 volunteers and out of that, approximately 8 to 10 are active volunteers. Volunteerism is fewer and they get burned out. BVA ends up relying on very few volunteers and they get burned out in that situation. It was said four or five is a more accurate number for active volunteers. One reason for the low turnout is the organization can’t pay the volunteers other than in a situation when transporting patients to the hospital and that has become a real problem for BVA. BVA has been around since 1965 and it is a membership corporation. BVA is not a public benefit organization and all assets don’t belong to the public as a whole, but instead controlled by the association’s members. Membership requirements are set in the by-laws of the corporation and a person must be a licensed emergency medical technician (EMT) to be eligible for membership. All five board of directors are appointed by their membership. There are currently five board members and they proposed the board membership increase from five to seven. The board members would appoint four new members and the three others to be appointed by someone else. Ken Baker was mentioned as President of the Association and two other support staff members were mentioned. BVA averages 800 calls per year and it is the only ambulance service in the County so they are covering from Naples to Porthill and from the eastside to the Westside. BVA provides basic and advanced life support, extrication service for the entire County, transports to two hospitals, as well as some inter-facility transfers. One reason BVA is here today is that they are limited in what they can do in terms of inter-facility transfers. If a patient is transferred to the hospital and the hospital says they need to go elsewhere for care, BVA cannot transport the patient to the other facility if they require a higher level of care. There is a need for additionally trained persons who have higher education and training backgrounds in this field and those people cost more money.

 

Chairman Smith questioned if there would be proper personnel if a helicopter was flown in. Mr. Baker said in the past medical personnel from Sandpoint or other places would be utilized. It was said the request is to create an ambulance service and to tax the public. Attorney Woods said a reasonable question is if there another way to get this done and the PowerPoint slides will show what the other options are and why they don’t work. In terms of what they do and why the County ought to provide BVA with funds is that BVA also conducts rope and water rescues and stands by at community events.

 

Attorney Woods discussed staff and mentioned there are currently five ambulance units. If BVA went out of business, it would be up to board of directors to determine where the assets should go, according to Attorney Woods.

 

County resident Jerry Di Muro joined the meeting.

 

Attorney Woods said BVA has two rescue units that are 12 and 15 years old and there is no permanent home. The County has provided a place for the units in the Extension Office Building. BVA also stores ambulance units at two fire departments; one at South Boundary Fire District and one at Hall Mountain Fire Department as well as a unit at Minden Water Well.

 

Attorney Woods said an ambulance district is needed for better patient outcomes and to better serve the community and in order to do that, additional revenues are needed.

Attorney Woods said Boundary Community Hospital performs minor surgeries only and Advanced Life Support is when highly trained people are needed to get patients from A to B. Those people are nurses and paramedics. The community needs to get patients from here to there in order to get the care as quickly as possible. Out of 225 calls BVA transported 56 and the remaining cases had to be transferred by another agency that is certified as advanced life support “ALS”. Boundary Community Hospital COO Jeffrey Perkins said the Hospital has averaged two helicopter rides per week. Attorney Woods offered to provide Commissioners more info on that subject if needed.

 

Attorney Woods said the helicopter and fixed wing involves getting something in the air from Spokane, getting a patient loaded, etc., and 40% of the time Boundary County can’t do that due to weather or other considerations of availability. Chairman Smith said helicopters can’t fly in certain conditions, but fixed wings can. Commissioner Dinning said 40% of the time weather is an issue and that equates to 170 ALS calls. That means 40% of the calls are forced to go to ground transportation. A fixed wing can get in to the County airport. Commissioner Dinning said so Medstar’s fixed wing can get here unless there is extreme weather.

 

EMT John Minden said Medstar established quite a few helicopters in Spokane, but they only have two fixed wings so availability is more of the issue. Commissioner Dinning said this is meeting just having a conversation and this is something the public will want clarity and understand. Attorney Woods said not only is flying an issue, but there is the issue of time. Attorney Woods said time is critical with a lot of patients and delays are sometimes injurious to these patients and all of these alternatives are taking longer. It was said someone will always be able to get a patient in an ambulance to Kootenai Medical Center faster than getting a helicopter. BVA can beat a competitor if they can put the personnel in the unit and go as soon as hospital says so. That is the best in terms of patient outcome and is the most dependable and reliable way. This is a certain approach that is being presented, according to Attorney Woods. If you look at all of these options such as Medstar, all of the other options are located out of this county and that tells you those dollars are leaving the county and not coming back. Those dollars are going to Spokane, Kootenai County and Bonner County. Attorney Woods said that helicopter bill and those dollars have left Boundary County and will not come back to the County as opposed to a BVA district that will provide jobs in the county to people who will spend money in this county. Chairman Smith asked if a district will eliminate the need for a helicopter. Mr. Perkins said there are always issues involving a helicopter if there is a rush to get to another location. It takes 10 minutes to get the helicopter fired up, another 30 minutes to get here, another 5 minuets to get the patient loaded up and 30 minutes to get back. Mr. Perkins said there will be times a patient will be sent in an ambulance in order to meet the helicopter midway. The County won’t have 42 paramedics and 16 ambulances waiting at the hospital, so if there is more then one accident, there will be a need for a helicopter. But in most cases BVA could handle this.

 

Commissioner Dinning asked if the Hospital has statistics for multi-person incidents. Mr. Perkins said statistically the Hospital will see a tremendous swing in transports done by BVA and Medstar. Attorney Woods said nurses are also a possibility to accompany a patient from A to B. People will ask why nurses don’t do that and there are a number of responses. It sounds good in theory, but not in application. There are staffing issues and you can’t pull a nurse off the hospital floor. That causes a reliability and dependability issue as far as finding another nurse that is not currently on shift at the hospital to sit on an ambulance to go with a patient. It is not doable. Mr. Perkins said liability wise the Hospital insurance carrier would not allow a nurse to go in the ambulance as liability is huge as there would be no control as a hospital. Chairman Smith mentioned using a memorandum of understanding in extreme emergencies. Mr. Perkins said another reason is that the Hospital has to have a certain number of staff at all times and there is someone on call for the Hospital’s circumstances. The Hospital could have a need for additional nurses so the nursing pool can’t be reduced if there is a surge in patients.

 

Paramedics can also answer a majority of the calls when they’re not in training. The thought is to hire three or four paramedics and they are not inexpensive. Washington and Montana sit on the County’s border and the local paramedics need to be paid what is somewhat equal to what they could be paid elsewhere as the situation of jumping ship is notorious so there is a need to pay something in order to retain them. Three to four paramedics could handle calls that come in annually and they would be in the ambulance transporting ALS patients along with the volunteers so volunteers won’t be so heavily relied upon. BVA will have better qualified people to respond to all calls, there will be more reliability, there will be no burnout, and paramedics can also handle most of the training for EMT’s, in addition to other responsibilities. Paramedics can handle all supplies involving drugs as well as review quality improvements, provide training, etc.

 

Attorney Woods said it is a lot of money that the proposed district would be asking for the 2013 budget and what BVA hopes to do before the budget hearing is to have budgets ready. The bottom line is there are details to support the budget for payroll. A vast majority of expenditures is payroll and there has to be a contract, a doctor, and billing expenses. There is a training figure in budget, but that is going to be higher than what it will actually be as that budget can be reduced by using a paramedic. The proposed district will need new ambulance units as the current units are old and have been discarded by other facilities and refitted by BVA. Attorney Woods said this tells you BVA has been doing good work with limited resources, historically. BVA has literally patched together older ambulances. The proposed district will want to rotate a new ambulance at a cost of $225,000 and keep them at a five year rotation. A fly car is also needed as currently personally owned vehicles are being used. Other expenses consist of patient care, supplies, administrative expenses, maintenance, fuel, repairs, insurance, then land and buildings. BVA does have a facility now in the Extension Office, but ultimately they would like to move to a world in which they had their own facility, according to Attorney Woods. Attorney Woods said South Boundary Fire District has a station that cost $345,000 and BVA would put a station loan a promissory note.

 

Attorney Woods discussed future possible revenues including grant estimates and other savings earned by changing a few practices. Also discussed was the issue of uninsured people.

 

Commissioner Dinning said having three to four full time paramedics to him will not take care of multiple issues as only one paramedic will be on shift at a time. Commissioner Dinning asked what is the anticipated avenue of coverage then as that is not improving the situation of staffing. Commissioner Dinning said this is what the public will ask. Attorney Woods said while there are four paramedics working on shifts, that doesn’t mean someone else won’t get called in such as if another paramedic has to work overtime. Attorney Woods said included in the budget is salary calculated for overtime.

 

9:55 a.m., County resident Donna Capurso joined the meeting.

 

Those present discussed the hours an ambulance district office will be staffed.

 

Attorney Woods said BVA is asking for the .04%. Chairman Smith said bottom line is it is the responsibility of the County to provide ambulance service so Commissioners know something has to be done. Chairman Smith said his only concern is what service is provided has to be right so it works and is successful for the community. Whatever board is put together, they’ll have people looking over their shoulder as there needs to be a guarantee that the service works.

 

Salaries for nurses and paramedics were briefly discussed and Mr. Perkins said a hospital nurse usually makes more than a paramedic.

 

Chairman Smith said Commissioners will let BVA know when the public hearing will be held. Attorney Woods said if between now and then Commissioners still have questions they can contact him. Chairman Smith briefly explained the public hearing process.

 

The meeting with BVA ended at 10:00 a.m.

 

10:00 a.m., Commissioners participated in a conference call with Shoshone County Commissioners on the issue of Caribou Critical Habitat. Also present were: Donna Capurso, Jerry Di Muro, Clerk Glenda Poston, and City Council Member Tom Mayo.

 

Chairman Smith reviewed the draft letter on Caribou Commissioners had written to request public hearings and to extend the comment period. Chairman Smith said last night’s Kootenai Valley Resource Initiative (KVRI) meeting got heated, but went well. Far more people attended the KVRI meeting than Chairman Smith said he thought would. Chairman Smith said Boundary County has requested two hearings with a public meeting prior. Chairman Smith said Bonner County Commissioners Louis Rich and Mike Nielsen attended the KVRI meeting as well as a City of Bonners Ferry Council Member in place of Mayor Dave Anderson. In Commissioners’ discussion with their attorney, coordination was mentioned. Bonner County has exercised their coordination authority and has drafted a resolution. Chairman Smith said Boundary County will add coordination to their agenda for Tuesday as Commissioners don’t really understand what coordination is about. Commissioner Dinning asked Shoshone County Commissioners if they are familiar with coordination. Shoshone County Commissioner Larry Yergler said they are familiar with coordination on a couple of different issues. Shoshone County has not formalized their stance as far as demanding and holding meetings as they’ve gotten pretty good response just by asking. Commissioner Dinning said this request forces the managing agency to come to the table and at least meet at a minimum, but he’s not sure if it gives the County any more authority. Shoshone County said the only authority it gives a County and to hold the agency’s feet to the fire and the agency has to keep responding. It is not a silver bullet to get what is wanted, though.

 

Commissioner Kirby said he felt the people against the critical habitat weren’t heard by the Department of Fish and Game. There will be a whole bunch of angry people, according to Commissioner Kirby. The people sense these professionals that were at the KVRI meeting don’t hear them. Chairman Smith said he told them we’re not going to go away. It was said right behind the Caribou issue is the Canadian Lynx and wolverine. Commissioner Yergler said he has attended a couple classes on coordination. Commissioner Dinning said the phone call from the Justice Department forced the agency to listen, but did it force them to adopt and accept the position the Commissioners were advocating for. Commissioner Yergler said had that not gone through, the ranchers would have gone out of business and this is to do with the Owyhee initiative. Chairman Smith said he didn’t get clarification, but the documents he saw mentioned 365 acres are involved between three counties. The figure discussed last night for Boundary County was 217 acres. Chairman Smith said he has never seen the figure of 270 acres, but when he went to the Wildland Urban Interface meeting, he asked how much acreage was in Boundary County and was told the number 270 although maybe he misheard. Commissioner Dinning said 217 was just Forest Service land, but other agencies were added and Idaho Department of Lands increased the number.

 

Commissioners will send their letter today and issue a press release to discuss what they’re doing as they did with the Jeremy Hill case. Chairman Smith said when Commissioners get notification of when a hearing will be they’ll issue another press release. Chairman Smith said he met with the school superintendent and brought up holding meetings in the auditorium and the superintendent said that would be fine. Commissioner Dinning asked about needing to prepare comments before an economic analysis is done so the county needs to list impacts. Shoshone County Commissioners questioned where the best location to get information was and Boundary County was suggested to contact the Idaho Association of Counties. Shoshone County Commissioner Vince Rinaldi said in talking economic analysis, has the County spoken to the regional economist? Chairman Smith said Bob Blanford spoke of actual Caribou numbers and finally the question of the number of animals came up. Kootenai Tribe Facilitator Patty Perry read a report that showed the last count was zero and the highest was three or four and that was seven to eight years ago. Chairman Smith said Boundary County Commissioners will get into this matter next Tuesday. Shoshone County Commissioner Yergler said he sent a copy of comments to Commissioners and asked if Commissioners had seen the new forest plan yet. Commissioner Dinning said Bonner County is holding a coordination meeting on January 24, 2012 at the Inn at Priest Lake and he added that Shoshone County’s comments should be sent in. Chairman Smith said after the public hearing he imagines there will be a lot of comments. Commissioner Dinning said Fish and Wildlife Service has to do an economic analysis and the public will address that and other comments. Commissioner Dinning said the economic analysis is only internal to the agencies and not how it affects the community. Commissioner Dinning said he thinks most people think it will be an analysis affecting the community.

 

Chairman Smith said the local ranger station is also doing a local analysis so hopefully Commissioners will know the results before the public hearing. Shoshone County Commissioners said they are more than willing to help Boundary County.

 

The telephone call with the Shoshone County Commissioners ended at 10:25 a.m.

 

Ms. Capurso said she has a coordination workbook that is two years old, but that it could be helpful. Commissioner Dinning said the numbers presented were correct. This is being implemented by a federal judge’s order. The Department of Fish and Game has gone 25 years without the matter of critical habit. Fish and Game did not do this intentionally and then they were sued. Had the lawsuit not occurred, we still would not be looking at critical habitat for a long time, according to Commissioner Dinning. Commissioner Dinning asked how Fish and Wildlife can justify critical habitat for an animal that doesn’t live in that area.

 

Mr. Di Muro said if Fish and Wildlife wins this, what is to stop them from saying we need to designate a space for the woolly mammoth. Ms. Capurso said she has a good relationship with the other four northern counties and could get them on board. Commissioner Dinning mentioned getting the other counties educated on this issue. Ms. Capurso mentioned working together with other counties and Commissioner Dinning said this district works and sticks together better than the other districts. Commissioner Dinning said last night’s KVRI meeting was not the official public hearing.

 

Planning and Zoning Administrator Mike Weland joined the meeting.

 

Ms. Capurso and Mr. Di Muro left the meeting at 10:40 a.m.

 

Those present discussed terms of Planning and Zoning Commission members that have expired.

 

Commissioners and Mr. Weland briefly discussed the process of discussing areas of impact between the City and County.

 

Mr. Weland left the meeting at 10:45 a.m.

 

Commissioners tended to administrative duties.

 

Commissioner Dinning left the meeting to tend to other matters.

 

11:00 a.m., Inland Forest Management President Mike Wolcott and Project Manager Bill Love joined the meeting. Mr. Wolcott provided Commissioners with a Fire Safe Program project report and informed Commissioners monies have been committed to the Copper Prairie Projects. Mr. Love briefly discussed his participation in the BonFire meetings in Bonner County and working with Kurt Naccarato. Mr. Love spoke of fuels reduction treatment on the Wyman property near McArthur Lake.

 

Mr. Wolcott said he forwarded his budget ahead of time for Commissioners’ review and approval before renewing the contract. Mr. Wolcott said he will send the contract to Commissioners for approval. Commissioners have approved the budget to go into the contract. Chairman Smith spoke of the importance of having a good grant administrator. Mr. Wolcott thanked Chairman Smith for his involvement in the Fire Safe Program.

 

11:30 a.m., The meeting with Mr. Wolcott and Mr. Love ended.

 

11:35 a.m., Commissioners spoke to Attorney Robinson via telephone to clarify matters involving Caribou Critical Habitat. The telephone call ended at 11:53 a.m.

 

Commissioners recessed for lunch.   

 

1:30 p.m., Commissioners met for the afternoon session with Chairman Smith, Commissioner Kirby, and Deputy Clerk Michelle Rohrwasser. Commissioner Dinning was out of the office for the rest of the day.

 

Solid Waste Superintendent Claine Skeen and Panhandle State Bank Vice President Dave Walter joined the meeting to discuss financing on the wheel loader for the Solid Waste Department.

 

Chairman Smith recapped he prior discussion on financing terms. Commissioners wanted to know for certain what the monthly payments will be and what the outcome will be at the end of the five year term. Mr. Walter said his lease rate is 3.2% and the annual payment is $17,558. The only difference is Panhandle Bank takes the first payment at closing or on delivery. The payments are and the lease balance after payments are made is $254,000. The lease buy back from Western States/CAT will be $272,000. Mr. Skeen said he is fine with terms so far. Mr. Walter said the reason for the first payment is so when the last payment is made, there will be less to the buy back. There will be six payments in total and the ending difference will go back towards credit for the next machine. Mr. Skeen said rather than five years with CAT finance it will be six years, but there will be a certain amount of equity for the next leased machine. Mr. Skeen said he will receive a letter from CAT approving the lease arrangement. Mr. Skeen said CAT’s terms did say guaranteed buyback of $272,000 and that was prior to financing.

 

Mr. Skeen said originally financing was not apples to apples in the fact of lease versus ownership at the end of the five year term.

 

Commissioner Kirby moved to rescind the prior motion made on January 3, 2011 to approve financing of a Caterpillar Wheel Loader, Model #980K, Stock #G024443, Serial #0W7K00526 through Western States/CAT Equipment Company. Chairman Smith yielded the chair to second. Motion passed unanimously. 

Commissioner Kirby moved to approve financing of a Caterpillar Wheel Loader, Model #980K, Stock #G024443, Serial #0W7K00526 for the Solid Waste Department through Panhandle State Bank as presented by Bank Vice President Dave Walter and as approved by the County’s civil attorney. Chairman Smith yielded the chair to second. Motion passed unanimously. 

 

Mr. Skeen and Mr. Walter left the meeting at 1:50 p.m.

 

Chairman Smith updated Blue Sky Broadcasting News Reporter Mike Brown on their discussion on Caribou Critical Habitat.

 

Commissioners tended to administrative duties.

 

3:00 p.m., Search and Rescue Commander Marcus Girod, Clerk Glenda Poston, and Chief Deputy Clerk Tracie Isaac joined the meeting.

 

Those present discussed paperwork the prior Search and Rescue Commander had been working on requiring the County’s EIN number. The paperwork was completed and will be mailed. Chief Deputy Clerk Tracie Isaac left the meeting. 

 

Deputy Clerk Chris Wolfe joined the meeting.

 

Chairman Smith discussed the process of keeping track of inventory for Search and Rescue. Clerk Poston clarified that she’s thinking Chairman Smith wants to make sure the proper people know where the equipment is stored. Chairman Smith said he wants to know when an entity no longer has the item that is on their inventory list and to list what happened to that item. That way it is marked off the inventory list. Chairman Smith said he thought the expansion of the Waterways Building was to house Search and Dive Rescue. Mr. Girod asked if it is customary to take inventory every one or two years and Chairman Smith said every year. Deputy Clerk Chris Wolfe presented Chairman Smith with the current inventory list for Search and Rescue equipment. Deputy Clerk Chris Wolfe suggested listing the location of the items on the inventory list.

 

Planning and Zoning Administrator Mike Weland joined the meeting at Commissioners’ request. Chairman Smith informed Mr. Weland of the process of working with Mr. Girod to go over the inventory. Clerk Poston mentioned it would be helpful if Mr. Weland resurrected the photos he took of the items. Deputy Clerk Chris Wolfe informed those present of the need to update the registration and invasive species stickers for Search and Rescue equipment that requires it.

 

Deputy Clerk Chris Wolfe left the meeting at 3:40 p.m.

 

There being no further business, the meeting adjourned at 4:00 p.m.    

 

                                   

 

                                                           /s/

                                                            RONALD R. SMITH, Chairman

 

ATTEST:

 

/s/

GLENDA POSTON, Clerk

By: Michelle Rohrwasser, Deputy